Obama’s Former Pastor Getting $1.6M Home in Retirement
The four- bedroom, 10,000-plus square foot home that Trinity United Church of Christ is building for Reverend Jeremiah Wright. (FNC Photo)
By Jeff Goldblatt
This was supposed to be the week that the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. returned to the pulpit to preach for the first time since his anti-American sermons generated nationwide outrage and drew condemnation from his longtime parishioner, Barack Obama.
But, citing security concerns, Wright canceled his speaking engagements in Florida and Texas. A spokeswoman at his former church in Chicago said his schedule is pending.
A two-week FOX News investigation, however, has uncovered where Wright will be spending a good deal of his time in retirement, and it is a far cry from the impoverished Chicago streets where the preacher led his ministry for 36 years.
FOX News has uncovered documents that indicate Wright is about to move to a 10,340-square-foot, four-bedroom home in suburban Chicago, currently under construction in a gated community.
While it is not uncommon for an accomplished clergyman to live in luxury, Wright’s retirement residence is raising some questions.
“Some people think deals like this are hypocritical. Jeremiah Wright himself criticizes people from the pulpit for middle classism, for too much materialism,” said Andrew Walsh, Associate Director of the Leonard E. Greenberg Center for the Study of Religion in Public Life with Trinity College in Hartford, Conn.
“So he’s entitled to be tweaked here. So the question really is, how unusual is this? Somewhat unusual,” he said.
According to documents obtained from the Cook County Register of Deeds, Wright purchased two empty lots in Tinley Park, Ill., from Chicago restaurant chain owner Kenny Lewis for $345,000 in 2004.
Documents show Wright sold the property to his church, Trinity United, in December 2006, with the proceeds going to a living trust shared with his wife, Ramah.
The sale price for the land was just under $308,000, about $40,000 less than Wright’s original purchase two years earlier.
Public records of the sale show Trinity initially obtained a $10 million bank loan to purchase the property and build a new house on the land.
But further investigation with tax and real estate attorneys showed that the church had actually secured a $1.6 million mortgage for the home purchase, and attached a $10 million line of credit, for reasons unspecified in the paperwork.
There is apparently nothing wrong with that, according to non-profit tax expert Jack Siegel of Charity Governance Consulting, who examined public documents FOX News obtained from the Cook County Register of Deeds and the Village of Tinley Park.
“At least looking at it from a public document standpoint, there’s clearly not a problem that jumps out or some sort of wrongdoing,” Siegel said.
Siegel characterizes the transaction as unusual, however, because of the way Wright sold the property to Trinity and the way the deal was financed, with the attached $10 million line of credit.
Because churches are classified as private businesses, Trinity isn’t required to reveal its intended use for the line of credit. Nor, because it’s a non-profit entity, is it required to provide that information to the IRS.
A spokesman for ShoreBank, the Chicago-based financial institution that secured mortgages for the loans, said the deals were aboveboard.
Wright did not respond to repeated calls for comment, and Trinity United refused to discuss the specifics of the home it is building for him and the way the deal was financed.
The church referred FOX News to its denominational headquarters in Cleveland, which provided a statement of support:
“It is customary and appropriate in many Christian denominations, including the United Church of Christ, for local churches to offer housing provisions for retiring clergy, especially in cases where pastors have served long-term pastorates. We support efforts by our 5,700 local churches to ensure that retiring pastors and spouses have continuing housing, adequate pension and health care, as an expression of our continuing appreciation for their years of service. Each local UCC congregation is free to honor a retiring pastor in ways it feels most appropriate to address the needs of that clergyperson’s circumstances,” wrote the Rev. J. Bennett Guess, spokesman for UCC’s national office.
“This is about how these kinds of churches work,” notes Walsh. “These pastors who made big successful churches are real valuable commodities. Is it morally wrong? Well, Protestants don’t have the idea that their religious leaders should live modestly or aesthetically. We’re not talking Buddhist monks or Catholic priests here. There’s no tradition that says they have to live poor.”
Tradition at Trinity United centers on a congregation that’s unashamedly black and unapologetically Christian, according to the church’s website. There are also no apologies from the church for the home it’s building for its former senior pastor, who nurtured a religious empire that grew to have more than 8,000 congregants.
Obama Is DONE !!!
Obama/Wright = WRONG!
Come on foxnews leave it alone damn what does reverend wright home have to do with you.
Does anyone at fox even know what constitutes a legitimate news story anymore? Are you kidding me, I know you are desperate to continue attacking Obama in the name of your pro-McSame “balance” but get real.
Maybe he could move some homeless people in that big ole house of his when he’s through building it…….being a man of God and all.
Amazing, just amazing…he preaches about rich white people…what a hypocrit.
Ok now show us where the Clinton’s live or quit the dumb stuff.
GODDAMN AMERICA, GODDAMN AMERICA!!!! I wish I were oppressed!!!
This man has done a lifetime of work in an area of the city plagued by high crime etc. I say it’s a small token of his congregations gratitude and shouldn’t be used as a political tool.
Be careful when you condemn and interrogate God’s chosen few. Judge not less ye be not judged. Jeremiah Wright tried to be a man of God. You have tried to take that from the Lord’s legacy of helping people and demonize this man for narrow political gain. Sean, Bill…you worship our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Do not put any political motives above your Christian duty. Help God’s people, offer solutions. The Lord is a vengeful God!
Christ 08′
IT FITS!!
I CANT BELIEVE YOU FOX NEWS!
Do you ever research the homes that other pastors live in? Some clergy men live in $500,000+ homes. Heck I watch the Trinity Channel and those people sit on golden thrones and sleep in million dollar mansions. My pastor lives in a $450,000 house and our congregation is only 5,000.
If anything, Wright’s home is actually small and humble compared to the other Evangelicals out there.
And we’re supposed to be shocked by this how? How’d you like to be this guys neighbor?
Typical
It seems that the Pastor “took” the Church and his congretation for a “ride”. While the people attending Church live “poor”, the Pastor lives like a “king”.
Something illegal here?
IRS - Where are you????
Why the heck is FOX on a manhunt for Rev. Wright? Why is this news. Is this man not able to retire to a nice home.
THis Rev. Wright stuff is getting very old Fox. If you are going to check his documents check the other very successful ministors out there because im sure you will find the same thing.
Give the Rev Wright issue up and focus on politics. PLEASE
Fox will do anything to try to keep a black man from being the president of the USA
I belonged to several UCC churches where the pastor retired in Florida, and I know they didn’t move into a multi-million dollar home. This is the exact reason that churches need to start paying taxes. “Preachers” (of hate) like this are scamming the tax payer— and there may be nothing illegal about how Mr. Wright obtained the house, but it sure looks shady—– I say the IRS needs to investigate and no, this has nothing to do with race— its just blatant abuse of non-profit status.
Ok now show us the Clinton’s home or quit the dumb stuff!
As long as he feels comfortable with it, does’nt bother this poor white boy.
Typical of limousine liberalism. Do as I say, not as I do.
You need to cut your greenhouse gas emissions, but I get to live in a huge mansion and fly on private jets. You need to get rid of your handgun, but my bodyguard needs one to protect me.
Etc, etc, etc.
I guess Rev Wright is part of the “other” America that Edwards was talking about.
Unreal! He must pay taxes on that house at least. I am calling foul ball on this.
Looks pretty comfy. I guess racism isn’t what it used to be. For all of his hatred of America he seems to have done pretty good. This isn’t uncommon for liberals. They complain about poverty, but ensure that they never experience it. Of course they blame everyone else for poverty. Socialists make sure that they enjoy a lifestyle that others cannot have. Typical hypocrisy.
How about building a 1600 square foot home (after all it’s only for 2 people) and donating the money it would take to build to the additional 8400 square feet to feeding and educating the poor around the church neighborhood.
Just a thought…………………………………
So, what was the truth about what Pastor Wright preached? Do as I say, not as I do? It’s unfortunate that the 8,000 members plus others that observe Pastor Wright receive such a mixed message. I wonder. If there is such a reward here on earth, which seems to be in direct conflict with a lifetime of messages preached, is there a reward in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy?
He speaks hate against rich white people. I think it is envy because it is obvious he is a pretty wealthy black man.
Seeing this house going up is just more evidence of how the whites in America have hurt the blacks. Now reverend Wright’s sermons make more sense!
who cares? just fox trying to smear Obama. When will the rednecks wake up?
Um, like, who cares. Get over yourselves. Someone told you the OBVIOUS truth and you’re still crying about it. Grow up and get some self awareness while you’re at it Fux News.
The good news is that Wright will surely spend eternity with all the other sinners, LOL! God Bless America.
This is an outrage!!!! Typical missuse of funds by that radical “church” and all blacks thinks this is just fine.
WOW!! 10,400 Square Feet. Thats a big house for two People. Maybe Rev. Wright and his wife have invited the Obama family to move in with them.
However, on second thought, The size of the Rev’s ego as well as Michelle”s bigger than life aura and both of their apparant disdain for our country would make for a cramped lifestyle!!
Good Luck to Barak in living with these two. It is apparant that Mrs. Obama dislikes men, especially white ones. I hope that anger does not include men of color.
another example of political clergy living the good life on the backs of the parishoners
Let it go!!!
You realize that he probably let the church pay himless than he paid for the land so he could write it off as a capital loss on his taxes every year.
Who cares? This is not news
Hmmm…rich white folks huh? Funny how he can look down his nose at wealthy white Christians and then build something like this!! Seems to smell of hypocrisy to me to stand in the pulpit & accuse rich WHITE folks of keeping him down when he lives better than most white folks in this country. Seems to me if the Lord and Savior, whom he claims to serve, can be born in a stable, then the good pastor could make it by in a house of oh about 2500 square feet…not 10,000!! I’ve seen stores smaller than that!!
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Who cares what Barack Obama’s former pastor is doing. He is NOT running for President. Barack Obama is not building the home for him. So why is this newsworthy?
Don’t you have better things to report on?
I have no problem with the church supporting clergy in their retirement years and providing a comfortable living, in fact they should. However, the question I ask is where is the balance? A 10,340 sq. ft. home for two people!! I’ve live in 4,000 sq. ft. and have 5 children and sometimes I think it’s to big.
What hacks me off are these so-called activists who preach that the “white man has kept the black man down” is ridiculous. For the past 25 years, my personal experience has been racisms on the part of blacks towards whites, not whites towards blacks. However many are quick to pull the race card to get what they want.
I am a very conserative christian. I vote republican…period! It is time to move on and get off this individual’s back. This is America. He is free to state his opinions. After all, HE IS NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT! If you do not want to vote for any individual connected to him, then vote your choice. IT IS TIME TO MOVE ON…
WOW!!!!!!!! I’m preacher. Can I get that kind of money?
WHO CARES!? He’s a FORMER Pastor. The Pastor is NOT running for president. Can ya’ll just drop this idiotic Obama’s ex pastor said this. Obama’s ex Pastor bought that. God help us if we were all held responsible because someone we know said somethin someone else found offensive. This is friggin idiotic little kid garbage. Is this all the Clinton campaign can do? PUHLEASE! You wanna chuck this campaign down to moral fiber Clinton you gotta do better than that cuz your underwear ain’t clean by a long shot.
Why does this not surprise me?Wright is as much a capitalist as the white Americans that he constantly criticizes.
R u guys serious? Do you think anyone in the United States actually cares about what kind of a home some preacher is going to retire in? American politics make me sick…it just reinforces my convictions of how blessed I am to be living in the ‘land of the TRUE free’…CANADA!!!
Is it legally right - yes. Is it ethically and morally right - NO! This man should be ashamed of himself for this. 2 people living in a 10,000 + SQ FT house while whole families live in a 400 SQ FT apartment. No minister of any faith should be allowed to live like this while his or her congregation lives in squalor!!!
Something smells about this story!!
They can rant, rage and bully but they can not hide. True motives and selfish hearts are always revealed in our creators timing. We were not given our blessings to bury and hide in the dirt. We are expected to give and share all that we reap! Rev. Wright was gifted in sharing the word and leading people. Some where along the way he started to hord like a squirrel and think of his own welfare.
I have no problem with the church giving the pastor a home. I do have a problem with the hate filled anti-American messages that the the pastor delivered to his flock.
I guess hate Preacher Wright won’t be giving any sermons on any ‘rich black people’ anytime soon. What a hypocritical, hatemongering & money-grubbing con-artist. Wright epitomizesthe very sins he ‘preaches’ against. And this is Obama’s mentor. Viable candidate only because of dumb voters.
this deal may be “all above board”…….but the whole thing stinks to high heaven……let’s all be clear about that…….
Who cares? Why can’t we focus on real issues. Like how Cook County have the highest taxes and highest poverty level? Or for that matter why is gas so high here?
Whoa! This so call “rich white person” can’t afford anything close to that … guess I’m not that rich after all. This man is the poster child for hypocrisies.
This “man” (Mr. Wright) is shameful. He is a bigot, a racist, and a liar. He incites hate and is, in some definitions, a “terrorist”. Why can’t people see, and say, what he is? If I were white, and said the same things he does, I would be either in jail, or on a special “watch list” by both the federal government and the NAACP.
and the bull, the corruption and the hypocracy continues to manifest itself… while his people are left in the streets hungry he will sleep well in luxury… no guilt no shame no thank you America this is the kind of change we can count on….
Oh by the way, Obama contributes large sums of money to them (the largest contribution $22,000 out of all his meagar philantropic gestures)…. funny I did not see any contributions to the Red Cross or other reputable agangies that would help people (ALL AMERICANS) only black groups, a black dance school (under investigation)… and surprisingly no mention of Katrina victims donations…. hmmmm, once you get their vote you don’t need to pander to them…
none of this shocks me… it’s like similar to some of the foreclosed victims here in LA… they are driving new Lexus, Lincoln SUV’s, Mercedes but yet they are not paying their mortgages…
Again, if this is the promised change; I want no part of it…
Rev. could at least have more bedrooms availiable to allow friends and family enjoy his palace!
How does the pastor’s retirement home compare to the average retirement home of his retired members?
OH MY GOD!!!! THE CHURCH IS BUILDING A HOUSE FOR THE PASTOR??
FOXNEWS CALL THE COPS!!! FOXNEWS CALL THE COPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RIGHT NOW!!!!!! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!
Jeff Goldblatt CALL YOUR BOSSES AT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!!!!
GO JEFF!! GO CALL THEM!!!
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my god. Foxnews is the reason why Americans don’t trust the news media anymore.
goldblatt and your bosses at the GOP are a disgrace!!
Get a life FOX!!!!! Your bordering on the absurd.
Hey all chickens need a place to call home to roost. I hope the poor people are invited for dinner. Why a gated community? This is absurd. I have seen the homes that retired priests and pastors live in. He should be ashamed of himself. Hes no better than the Bakers. Keep drinking the cool aid. Who’s riding dirty now? THE AUDACITY
THis is the same minister who preached against the “evil corporate America”, which likes to keep black paople poor. Minister Wright has not been poor for a long time. He has to go down as one of the biggest hypocrites in modern black history.
Quite an eye opener.
It is appropriate for the church to provide for the pastor and his wife for there long service. But they should be apologetic as Christians as the bible speaks clearly about excesses and 10,000 sq ft and what appears to be a $10 million retirement account for 2 people is clearly excessive. For his lack of love for his brother and an his abundance of love for the material things he will be judged.
Oh what a surprise. The bigot is a hypocrite as well.
Fox news, why aren’t you talking about the real issue, the falling economy and this endless war in Irak?
Haven’t you seen John Haggee’s home? Or Pat Bratley Home?? Do you know where the money came from? Another double standard politic.
What a shame he is spending the money the congreation put in the basket for such a lavish home. Do the people in the parish know their money is building him a house far better than the adverage person?
Boy this is a strike on religion and churches. He needs to live in Bahamas where religion is real and people have faith.
He is just an pretending to be a pastor he is really just another actor thinking with his dumb stick.
I don’t care if Mr. Wright lives in a twenty million dollar home as long as the church body is aware how ‘their money” and “God’s money” is be spent. But I do find it hypocritical of him to talk about materialism when he seems to be the poster child for it. I had to laugh out loud when I read the part where Obama condemned his former pastor…Obama is just now seeing how radical this guy is, or is he just really slow mentally? Who knows maybe the truth will come out and he’ll admit that he slept through the services. Either way I’m enjoying the saga and hope it last a while.
Interesting that the rev is now retiring could it be that senator Obama needs him as a consultant if he get’s in the white house???
Rev. Wright has made himself rich spouting his hate messages and all those who have contributed to his lifestyle are left out in the cold. How many of those in the congregation will build a 10,000 sqft. home in the near future? The hallmark of a great pastor is he does not live above his flock nor garner monies at the expense of others.
hmmm.. so I take it that because its the church involved… my tax money is being used to pay for the loans and his house.. seeing as churches are tax exempt and all… millions of dollars worth as a matter of fact.. sad.
Only in America!!, because of our fore fathers, being brought here of there own free will or thru slavery, can so many be so blessed and fortunate to be here and live in such large mansions and YET criticise America, Go Figure!!
Appropriate for just another snake-oil peddler while the lemmings just keep on going over that cliff
Wow, looks like hating on white people pays off
Guys, I know you are very pro-republican but come on, this makes your headlines? This is the most irrelevant asinine irresponsible zero newsworthy smear attempt I’ve seen in a while.
GIVE IT A REST. I know you want print my comment but have you ever really looked at the news you’re putting out? Over 50% of your top political stories are all Barack negatives, and it’s really lambasting your audience with how little fairness and integrity you have.
Shame on you Fox News. And I’m not even a Barack voter, I’m independent and hate both parties but this is just ridiculous I have to call it out.
Certainly the church has the right to provide luxurious accomadations to a long serving pastor. A question might be; Could some of this money be better spent to serve a greater good? Feeding, Educating, Training, and Counceling the very parishoners in his congregation comes to mind. It intrigues me to no end how individuals that profess some spiritual superiority can disrespect the country that allows his dissent while at the same time turning his back on those he has worked to rally aginst it. Religion is supposed to be about hope. What hope has this man left to to anybody now that it’s all said and done?
This is a non-political issue. Republicans…please move past this. If we keep focussing on this guy, we will do nothing but term many Christians away from us. Do we really want the backlash of our candidates’ and their wealth portrayed to a great extent?
There is a double standard here. We need to let it go and move on to issues people care about. We will not sway any independent votes by continuing on this Pastor bashing.
I’m 69 years old and in all my life I have only met three ministers that were truly men of the cloth, i.e. they put the spiritual needs of their fellow man ahead of their own. Quite frankly Pastor Wright doesn’t meet that criteria. At the end of the day he’s no different than all the other televangelists that preach the prosperity gospel from ‘The Church of what’s happening now!’ They are nothing more than modern day ‘Robbing Hoods’, i.e. steal from the poor, enrich themselves. How do they sleep at night ?!
My father is preparing to retire as an accomplished pastor. His part of the Evangelical Free Church church began in our living room back in the early 70’s, and has grown to over 600 people every Sunday. 15 years ago, they built their own church building after renting the Seventh Day Adventist building on Sundays since before I was born back in 1975. He still lives in the small 3 bedroom house I grew up in, and I find this appalling that this other preacher thinks he “deserves” this kind of retirement. Pretty sad that the people in his church give their hard earned money to go to church related entities, only to find out that they were really buying a multi-million dollar house for a man who condems his own country. Sad, sad, sad.
Who cares?
I find nothing wrong about a church or congregation wanting to provide for the pastor that helped them through difficult times. What I do find hypocritical is the proportions of the home, and that, I suspect, not every one of the people donating money to this church knew that their hard-earned oney was going to a home built within a gated community costing more than many of the members earn in a lifetime. I think a simple home, in a decent area, would suffice. What next? A country club membership? A Maserati? A summer home in San Diego?
“Do as I say, not as I do.”
The black Jim Baker.
There’s lots of money to be made by ministers fleecing their flocks.
IF THEY DON’T NEED TO SPECIFY WHAT THE LINE OF CREDIT IS FOR. I WONDER HOW MUCH OF THAT 10 MILLION WILL GO INTO OBAMAS CAMPAIN FUND? IF YOU CAN’T WIN THE NOMINATION YOU CAN ALWAYS BUY ONE.
Interesting…lets see how much Rezko had to do with the Pastor’s house. Rezko association with Pastor Wrighnt and Obama
who cares fox. Can’t you find something better to report on?
The church is paying for this?!?!??!? Wouldn’t the money be better spent on the community? What a hypocrite!
Wright bought the property and sold it at a loss to his church. The church took a mortgage to build the house and received a line of credit. Wright doesn’t own the property. Basically, it sounds like the church is going to allow Wright to live in the property. The church will still own it. What’s the big deal?
This is disgusting. Protestants may not require their ministers to live in poverty, but this is crossing a line. I wouldn’t want to answer for this when I stand before the Lord.
Fox News is fair and balanced, huh?
if it was please discuss the following:
how big is john hagee, pat Robertson, jerry falwell, and Rod parsley’s home? I can guarantee it isn’t a two bedroom home.
If this man is such the scum of the earth, why is it that Ronald Reagan…you know the messiah of the repubs, praised his efforts to bring an American pilot being held hostage in syria home? stating that his efforts and his talents were a reason for the success?
why are we not talking about the bigoted responses from parsley, hagee, and robertson concerning American citizens and institutions?
why continue to attack and talk about him unless its because he is black and he had the nerve to say something negative about the US. I’m white and even I see the double standard in this! if I want to hear rev. wright, i will go to his church, i come to fox news to get…. you guessed it… NEWS. not propoganda!
This kind of thing is par for the course. I would venture to say that almost all of these guys (preachers) do the same thing in some way or another… probably 99.9 percent of them do. Wright is a small fish in the sea of financial gain and the church. So what this is, is only about Wright and his connection to Obama, isn’t it? Politics!!… give me a break.
God damn America!
Rev. Wright is reaping the blessings of the material world because he has faithfully traversed the one truth path. His heavenly atitude and righteous words have made him worthy of the magnificent mansion, big pension, and generous health plan. Please be humble and accept this truth.
Isn’t it amazing how these people can preach against materialism and yet it ok for them to do just what they preach against.
A classic case of the “kettle calling the pot black” no pun intended.
Like any business, the CEO usually has a ’showroom’ home to entertain VIPs. Why shouldn’t he? Denomination matters…when a church is built around a person instead of Father, Son and Holy Ghost…you find these ‘business’ style church markets. You gets whats you pays for…
why doesn’t this surprise me?
oh right. Liberal hypocracy. THAT was it. Do as I say, not as I do.
I was just having a conversation the other day with a classmate about all these millions O-BAM-uh has been raking in. Where exactly are they coming from?
I think I just found about 8 million of it -__-
Obama 08, donkeys not honkeys.
I’m Rev. Wright, and I approve the above message.
Ok. Let’s get this straight. The Reverend Wright buys this property for $800,000+ and donates it to the church - then I am sure he took a tax write-off for the market value of his donation. The church turns around and builds him a million-plus dollar house on the property, which he will get to live in. First problem…in order to receive a legal tax deduction for your contribution to a charity, you cannot receive any value back. I think the problem here is fairly obvious - he gets to live in this home until both he and his wife are dead! The IRS should investigate this man AND his church! Second problem… The church takes out a $10,000,000 Line of Credit on the property and house. This house is worth far more than the $1.6M tag the article places on it. The bank would only lend to the market value of the house. Assuming that, the house is clearly worth more like $10 Million. Lastly, what is the church going to use that $10 Million to fund???
First and foremost, this has absolutely nothing to do with Obama; if the church wishes to endorse him then so be it. Secondly I agree that no where in the bible does it say that anybody has to live poor, especially those in the body of Christ. In addition who is to say that money isn’t given to the community, how can one teach and preach about the blessings of giving and then not practice it….that would be hypocritical.
Some have asked, “What’s the big deal?”
The big deal here is Wright’s criticism from the pulpit of those folks who are enjoying the fruits of materialism. And I’m guessing most of those folks he spoke of aren’t living in $1.6 million houses.
If you’re going to tout it, you’d better not flout it!!
I agree with the church’s response. Right on Pastor Wright.
I can not understand the people who are saying who cares and this is not news. If you don’t care don’t bother reading the story. It is important that these types are exposed for who they are. Hopefully the congregation will see this story, for I imagine alot of them are not aware whats going on. The ones who do know probably feel he deserves this. This is typical in so many churches. Parishoners contributing their hard earned dollars and are blind to where it goes. I was raised a Catholic and could never understand why all the gold and stained glass. These things are not needed to worship God. This guy needs to be run out of town on a rail like Baker was. I’ll bet if we keep digging there’s more to know about this hypocrite. Keep up the good work Fox.