Michigan Democrats Pitch Splitting Delegates Between Obama, Clinton
LANSING, Mich. — Michigan Democrats working to get the state’s delegates seated at the Democratic National Convention on Tuesday suggested splitting them 69-59 between presidential candidates Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama.
The Democratic National Committee stripped Michigan of its 128 delegates for holding its presidential primary too early in the year.
Clinton has argued that she should get 73 delegates based on the results of the Jan. 15 primary, which she won — 18 more than Obama.
Obama, who removed his name from the ballot, wants the 128 pledged delegates split evenly, 64-64.
The compromise, suggested Tuesday in a letter to Michigan Democratic Chairman Mark Brewer, fell halfway between the two proposals.
The DNC stripped Florida and Michigan of their convention delegates — 366 in all, including pledged delegates and superdelegates — for holding their primaries too early in the nominating process, which violated party rules.
Clinton and Obama agreed not to campaign in either state as a result, and Obama joined other candidates in removing their names from Michigan’s ballot.
Clinton won both contests. Trailing in delegates, with 2,025 needed to become the party’s presidential nominee, Clinton and her campaign have been pressing for those primary results to be recognized. Obama, who wants to preserve his lead, objects.
Both states have abandoned plans to hold do-over contests that would count, but are demanding to be allowed to participate in the voting for the nominee at the party’s national convention in Denver in late August.
Last week, the party’s Rules and Bylaws committee announced a May 31 meeting to consider a separate plan to award half delegates as a means of resolving the dispute over Florida’s and Michigan’s contests.
Really, I mean like Really Really, who cares? Why don’t all the aggrieved Voters in Michigan and Florida address the People responsible for this sorry mess? It lies [make that a Capital L] with two of them, yea Folks, just two of them, the same two you see bickering everyday on and on about who should be the looser against McCain comes November. Come on Folks, vent your anger on them, they caused it. Vote them both out November, right out of all Public Office!
If Obama goes by the DNC rules and removes his name from the ballot in Michigan and by the rules doesn’t campaign in either state, it seems to penalize him and give Clinton the win for breaking the rules.
Also, being born and raised in Florida, truth is, the big turnout here was for an admendment to lower property taxes that brought out any and everybody to vote. Since there was no campaigning here in Florida for democratic presidential candidates, and the name Clinton being already very well known was an unfair advantage to Obama. Rules are rules and should be followed by the DNC. Florida and Michigan knew they would not be seated when they broke the rules. If the DNC now allows them to be seated then the rules don’t mean very much.
To order that the delegates from both states be split equally destroys democracy and tryannizes the voters. The peoples of Michigan and Florida have decided that they would prefer Clinton as a president over Obama. He shouldn’t gain delegates that he legitmately lost, and he would crush democracy by doing so. If he has any faith in the democracy of the United States, he would not only accept the outcomes of Michigan and Florida, he would advocate that the true results be used.
I totally agree to the split. In Michigan we were told to vote undecided because Obama and Edwards were not on the ballot. If the others were on the ballot I am sure that Obama would have won. I have a problem when they all agreed not to be on the ballot and then one changed their mind so that they could win. I was always a Hillary person but that changed my mind for voting for her If you cheat to win what’s not to say you would cheat in other things. So, lets be fair and divide it equally.
Does anybodv believe in fairness and playing by the rules? and I am so tired of Florida and it’s everlasting voting problems, The rest of the states followed the rules MI and Fla did not. The ruse to include MI and Fla is only the means to steal an election by increasing Hillary’s delegate count. Besides the voters are not being disenfranchised, individual votes = delegates, delegates = select each parties nominee, Dem vs Rep in General election.
The Fla and MI voters can vote in the General election.
Why not splitt the Fla and MI delegates 50-50?
Answer: no advantage for Sen Clinton
Why is Florida and Michigan Democrats still crying about not being included in the Primary Elections. The State Democrats in each State were well aware of the rules prior to holding an illegal Primary Election. I assume they wanted to tell the remaining States that they are special and they don’t need to follow the rules, they will make their own rules and the rest of the Nation will have to be happy with their errogance.
I truly feel sorry for the voters in both States for not being counted in this elections. I suggest every day they thank their State Democratic Parties for missing their opportunities. Both elections were outside the rules. Our Country was founded on rules and regulations. These rules and regulations are to be followed by ALL in the USA, they are not their as guidelines.
You cant simply split the delegates. The only fair thing to do is reduce the number of required delegates to recieve the nomiation, by the total number of delegates up for grabs, divided by the number of people on the ballet. No one know how the vote would happen, thats why we have elections in the first place. No one thought Jessie V. would be govenor of Minnesota, but he won. If a canadate pulled thier name which was not required by the DNC to bad, that was simply thier choice.
If all this news concerning Obama had come out before all these elections, I do not believe he would have won as much as he did. So, why should he gain votes he did not earn. Let the people have their vote count. That is what Democracy is supposed to be.
DNC - it is one thing to split Michigan but another to think about splitting Flordia - all names were on the ballot, Al Sharpton was there on Obama’s behalf and he had commericials running, if you split Florida, you have lost alot of democratic voters.